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DID KABIRA OR KABIRA-PANTHA GURUUS ORIGINATE THE AUM-SOHAM MANTRA?


Kabira-Pantha Guruu Rampal of Satloka Ashram, Barwala makes following wrong claims in his book ‘Prebhaashaa Prbhu Kee’:

1. Yogis and Authentic Scriptures know only upto TREKUTEE and not beyond and ONLY KABIRA-PANTHIS KNOW BEYOND THIS. See the plate number 1.


(PLATE NUMBER 1)

2. Only a Kabir-panth follower’s soul is able to pass through the BRHM-RANDHR [APERTURE OF BRHM] WHICH LAY BEYOND THE TREKUTE, because the BRHM-RNDHRA path gets cleared of evil forces when the kabir-panth follower’s soul chants AUM-SOHAM mantra. See the plate number 2.


(PLATE NUMBER 2)

3. Even Vedas don’t know the SOHAM MANTRA and as such the non-Kabira-Pantha pandits [scholars/spiritual-seekers] have not been able to get spiritual salvation. See the plate number 3.


(PLATE NUMBER 3)

Rampal’s above-mentioned 3 claims are totally wrong because the authentic scriptures called Upanishads [also called Vedanta – see the plate number 4] know about spiritual planes beyond Trekutee as is clear from the plate number 5 and 6 [quoting passages from the ‘TrepaadvebhuuteMahaanaaraayaann Upanishad’].


(PLATE NUMBER 4)


(PLATE NUMBER 5)


(PLATE NUMBER 6)

The passage in the PLATE NUMBER 6 clearly says that THE SOUL OF THE FOLLOWER OF THE LORD VISHNU PASSES THROUGH THE BRHM-RANDHRA BY CHANTING THE HOLY NAME/MANTRA CALLED SOHAM AND SILENTLY CONTEMPLATING ON THE AUM MANTRA….! If you read the entire, you will find that the Vishnu-follower’s soul passes through numerous higher spiritual planes…!

NOW JUST THINK:

1. Rampal is either not aware of the ‘TrepaadvebhuuteMahaanaaraayaann Upanishad’or else Rampal has intentionally chosen to ignore it or hide it from his followers.

2. Upanishadas were written hundreds/thousands of years before even when Kabira the saint was not born. These scriptures tell about AUM-SOHAM MANTRAS and higher spiritual planes.

ALTHOUGH IT MAY SEEM A WASTE OF TIME IN WRITING OR READING SPRITUAL ARTICLES SUCH AS THIS ONE YET IT ALWAYS IS USEFUL TO KNOW DIVERSE SPIRITUAL OPINIONS AS IT HELPS IN REMOVING COBWEBS OF CONFUSION AND IT HELPS THE SPIRITUAL-SEEKER REMAIN STEADY ON ONE’S CHOSEN DESTINED CORRECT SPIRITUAL PATH.



~ JAGADA GURUU MAA JAGADAMBAA VEBHUUTE SWAAMEE APRTEMAANANDAA JEE

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Comment by Dr SWAAMEE_APRTEMAANANDAA_JEE on January 11, 2013 at 8:16am

"If you read the entire, you will find that the Vishnu-follower’s soul passes through numerous higher spiritual planes…!" MAY KINDLY BE READ AS "If you read the entire 'Trepaad Vebhuute Mahaanaaraayaann Upanishad', you will find that the Vishnu-follower’s soul passes through numerous higher spiritual planes…!"
THE UNINTENTIONAL TYPING ERROR IS DEEPLY REGRETTED.

Comment by ASHRAM on January 12, 2013 at 3:26pm

The definition of mantra- MAN ka TAR Jana--By which MAN is able to reconstitute with the power of word/Sound & intension. SOAHAM-SOHAM are two different words. Even if same word what is the intension (BHAV)- intension if still VISHNU who is still the cycle of birth & death. Then what you expect beyond the state of you EIST?

Mr. Aprt....M...Andaa ji if you have a bow the arrow will reach the object/AIM only towards it's aimed at. The intension is already clear from the text quoted above & even the understanding which is there in the majority of followers is SO- AHAM means "I am like That-HIM"- "MAIN BHI VAHI HOON" ., Then why human beings are not able to do creation as done by the Creater- GOD/Purn Braham. Human beings & others are part of creation means we are the constituents of the dreamy state because of our own wishes & wills.

The Mantra does transformations but let one become transformation itself.

Regards

Sincerely Your

Akshya Dass

Comment by Dr SWAAMEE_APRTEMAANANDAA_JEE on February 17, 2013 at 3:05pm

DEAR A.....KSHYA

1. YOU SAY..."The intension is already clear from the text quoted above & even the understanding which is there in the majority of followers is SO- AHAM means "I am like That-HIM"- "MAIN BHI VAHI HOON" ., Then why human beings are not able to do creation as done by the Creater- GOD/Purn Braham."

ANSWER:
1.If the individual soul can reach the highest state of consciousness [becoming one with the Supreme Consciousness], such a human being can do creations as done by the CREATOR- SUPREME CONSCIOUSNESS.....
2. SENTENCES LIKE "...the understanding which is there in the majority of followers is SO- AHAM means "I am like That-HIM"- "MAIN BHI VAHI HOON"....." ARE MEANT JUST TO REMIND AND ENCOURAGE THE HUMAN BEINGS LIVING IN THIS MATERIAL WORLD TO KNOW THAT THE HUMAN BEINGS IN THE HIGHEST STATE OF CONSCIOUSNESS ARE ONE WITH THE SUPREME CONSCIOUSNESS AND AS SUCH MUST STRIVE TO UPLIFT THEMSELVES SPIRITUALLY...!

Comment by Dr SWAAMEE_APRTEMAANANDAA_JEE on February 17, 2013 at 3:30pm

DEAR A....KSHYA

YOU SAY "...what is the intension (BHAV)- "

ANSWER:
1. WELL SAID, BHAV [BELIEF/MEANING UNDERSTOOD] ASSOCIATED WITH THE WORD IS VERY IMPORTANT IN SPIRITUALITY.....THAT'S WHY, IT'S MENTIONED IN SHRIMADA DEVI BHAGAWAT THAT THE GAAYATRI MANTRA SHALL GIVE SPIRITUAL SALVATION ONLY WHEN IT IS PRACTISED WITH THE 'BHAV' THAT THIS SHALL LIBERATE THE SOUL......IF THIS IS NOT DONE WITH THIS BHAV, THE GAAYATRI MANTRA SHALL NOT LEAD TO SPIRITUAL SALVATION NO MATTER HOW MANY TIMES YOU CHANT IT....!

2. THE FOLLOWERS OF VISHNU CHANT SOHAM MANTRA WITH THE BHAV THAT THEY SHALL ATTAIN LIBERATION.......AS YOU THINK, SO YOU BECOME....JAHAN AASAA TAHAN WAASAA....

3. YOU HAVE NOT UNDERSTOOD THE SPIRITUAL CONCEPT/TATTVA OF VISHNU.....THAT'S WHY, YOU DON'T SEE VISHNU BEYOND BEING YOUR OWN NARROW REGIMENTED FALSE UNDERSTANDING....! SUPREME CONSCIOUSNESS CAN MANIFEST OR BE VISUALIZED IN ANY FORM LIKE VISHNU, ETC.....SUPREME CONSCIOUSNESS FLOWS THROUGH WHOLE CREATION IN MANY FORMS ON MANY LEVELS.....THUS, SAME SUPREME CONSCIOUSNESS IS VISUALIZED IN THE FORM OF VISHNU BY FOLLOWERS OF VISHNU....VISHNU/SUPREME CONSCIOUSNESS OPERATES ON MANY LEVELS LIKE CREATING THE WHOLE CREATION AND ACTING EVEN AS THE KAAL AS IS CLEAR FROM FOLLOWING PASSAGE FROM VISHNU PURAANN:

SHALOKAAS IN SANSKRIT:

MEANING IN HINDI:

Comment by Dr SWAAMEE_APRTEMAANANDAA_JEE on February 17, 2013 at 3:38pm

DEAR A....KSHYA

YOU SAY "...what is the intension (BHAV)- "

THEN, WHY DON'T YOU ASK YOUR RAMPAL NOT TO ASK FOLLOWERS TO CHANT 'AUM' TWICE [First as associated with BRHMAA JEE, then Second time as associated with the SUUKSHMAA SHREER AND INSTEAD JUST CHANT 'RAM' WITH THE 'BHAV' THAT THE WORD OR MANTRA 'RAM' IS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PUURNNA BRHM...? AFTER ALL, AS PER YOUR SAY, 'THE BHAV' IS ALL THAT IT TAKES TO GET SPIRITUAL SALVATION....? IF THE BHAV IS EVERYTHING, WELL, ONLY ONE NAME/WORD/MANTRA SHOULD SUFFICE TO ACHIEVE SPIRITUAL SALVATION...:-)

Comment by Dr SWAAMEE_APRTEMAANANDAA_JEE on February 17, 2013 at 3:41pm

DEAR A...KSHAY

YOU SAY - "Mr. Aprt....M...Andaa ji"

WELL, WILL YOU PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME AS TO WHAT YOU MEAN BY THE WORD 'Andaa'? MAY BE THEN, I WILL BE ABLE TO RESPOND TO YOUR THESE WORDS IN A MUCH BETTER MANNER ...:-)

Comment by Dr SWAAMEE_APRTEMAANANDAA_JEE on February 17, 2013 at 3:51pm

DEAR A...KSHAY

1. THE PROBLEM WITH THE SPIRITUAL SEEKERS LIKE YOU AND RAMPAL IS THAT YOU AND YOUR GURUU HAVE DECIDED TO KEEP YOUR MINDS AND HEARTS CLOSED......YOU AND YOUR GURUU HAVE DECIDED THAT EVERYONE SHOULD BELIEVE IN RAMPAL'S SPIRITUAL CLAIMS/INTERPRETATIONS DESPITE MANY OF THESE BEING BLATANTLY INCORRECT...:-)

2. I SUPPOSE, NOW I SHOULD STOP RESPONDING TO YOUR COMMENTS AS IT SEEMS THAT YOU HAVE DECIDED NOT TO HAVE AN OPEN MIND ON SPIRITUAL ISSUES...:-)

3. LET ME SHARE WITH YOU ONE SHOCKING SPIRITUAL FACT : YOUR RAMPAL'S/RAMPAL'S PREDECESSOR GURUUS' KABIRA-PANTHA FOLLOWERS GO/WENT TO VISHNU LOKA ONLY, BUT VISHNU HAS CLEVERLY MANAGED TO HIDE THIS FACT FROM KABIRA-FOLLOWERS....:-)

ANYWAY, MAY ALMIGHTY HELP YOU SEE SPIRITUALITY FULLY CLEARLY......LOTS OF LOVE TO YOU AND ALL OTHER GENUINE SPIRITUAL-SEEKERS...!

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