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AFTER THE SELF-REALIZATION , NEED FOR WORSHIPPING GODS/GODDESS VANISHES

THE WORSHIPPING OF THE FORM OF THE GOD/GODDESS HELPS THE SPIRITUAL-SEEKER MOVE TOWARDS THE GOAL OF SELF-REALIZATION. AFTER THE SPIRITUAL-SEEKER HAS ATTAINED THE SELF-REALIZATION , THERE IS NO NEED FOR THE SPIRITUAL-SEEKER TO WORSHIP THE EXTERNAL FORMS OF THE GOD/GODDESS. THE SPIRITUAL-SEEKER WHO HAS ATTAINED THE SELF-REALIZATION, HENCEFORTH, HAS TO FOCUS ON THE ABSOLUTE [BRHMA] OR THE LIGHT ONLY INSTEAD OF THE ERSTWHILE GOD/GODDESS. THE FOLLOWING DOCUMENT DESCRIBES IT ALL:

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Comment by Chandan Bandyopadhyay on June 28, 2010 at 10:11am
Pranam,

Sciptures are correct to the 3rd dimentional rights of ethics under principles of shallow interception only, but unfortunately the causal truth is far far away from the above mentined understanding, So my dear one, please do dive deeper in the ocean of causal intell to know the transcendental truth and enigma. Worshiping Gods & Goddess in various dimentions and planes is also a true trans-commune in fact and has its own enigmatic significance, because the transcendental causal intelligence dwells in both manifested and unmanifested projection og various Gods & Goddess and surely do transcommunicate unconditional love and transcendental wishdom which has nothing to do with self realization. Whereas a self realized one surely do transcendentally trans-communicate love, honour, gratitude and etc....etc...which may be worded as worship with Gods & Goddess at finite level of dimentions in existance.

So by beloved please do not set your mind till verify the truth personnally.
Comment by Dr SWAAMEE_APRTEMAANANDAA_JEE on June 29, 2010 at 4:21pm
Thank you very much for your comments/doubts/querries!

1. It's true that the Gods/Goddesses do transcommunicate unconditional love and transcendental wisdom which may or may not have anything to do with the self-realization.
2. However, if you read scriptures carefully, they talk in terms of the Mukte of various kinds, i.e., Saalokya, Saameepya, Saaruupya, Saayujya, Kaeevalya and Swayama Brhma.
3. It depends on the Devotee as to what kind of Mukte the Devotee is aspiring for. If the Devotee desires Saalokya, Saameepya, Saaruupya, Saayujya or the Swayama Brhma Muktee, the Devotee may aspire for any of these as one's spiritual goal.
4. However, for the one who has aspired for and realized the Swayama Brhma Muktee [the concept as understood by me, different spiritual seekers may have different understanding of the meaning of the word Swayama Brhma], there is no need to contemplate on the Human form of Gods and Goddesses. In the Swayama Brhma stage, the spiritual seeker gets merged into the Brahma/Absolute in its pure LIGHT form which has then nothing to do with the worship of the Absolute in Human forms [adopted by Gods/Goddesses].
5. Even in Durgaa Saptashatee, in one Daevee Stotra, the Daevee is praised as "AESHHAA AATMASHAKTEhaa" which means that one's OWN AATMA [SELF] SHAKTE [POWER] is the GODDESS. This means clearly that the true final spiritual form [if we can say so] of the GODDESS is one's own self-power/Absolute Tatva. The Human Form of Gods/Goddesses in which this SELF-POWER manifests during the spiritual seeker's spiritual journey is just one of the numerous manifestations/stages on the way that help the spiritual seeker progress towards the final goal of the Absolute which is MANIFESTATIONLESS......!
5. As for me personally, the Absolute Truth stands verified personally by the grace of the Divine Mother. I cannot say about other spiritual-seekers and their personal experiences. One has to oneself experience the Absolute Truth personally...................!
Comment by Chandan Bandyopadhyay on June 30, 2010 at 9:46am
Pranam,
A sadhak contemplate complete when athma darsan is blessed and the sadhak assumes the sattava of brahmana to claim swayma brahmana stithi. Then oftenly sadhak identies self as infinite brahmana sattava. But my beloved sadhak this meta-physical physic statute is only limited with in the finite boundary of three dimentions of prithivi & its astral dimentions with in which the physic ego potency is still profound. So proclaimation of swayma brahmana is the prathama aham (first ego) of athman. Once a sadhak crosses the boundaries of three dimention and travells to higher and or lower dimentions among other 11 remaining dimentions can only meet the manifested & non-manifested Gods and Goddesses in finite ways just to explain that brahmana (athman) is still under the vail of finite ego. The fromless & forms of Gods and Goddesses surely do vary in form from dimention to dimentions and under various degree of perceptions of sadhaka in accordance to its own degree of spiritual evolution. All the manifestations of higher spiritual athmana (Gods & Goddess) is to resolute the ego of pratibimbha brahmana (the fractualal truth of true brahman). The abosute omnipresent omniscent God Lord Hevenly Father Shiv Shiva is the true athman (brahmana) which manifests himself in three statutory binary of logic, Brahma, Vishnu, Maheswara, with their stautory individual brahmana aham (athman ego) then they retrospectively remanifest that to infinite demi God & Goddess with their individual statutory ego. Henceforth a human atman is just a mirror image of true brahmana only with egos of all the manifested Gods & Goddess amulgameted in one. Therefore see my beloved yogi, its an extremly futile conception that swayama brahma need not worship demi Gods & Goddess. Only when a athman after knowing the true athman tattava (swayama brahman) still bows down wwith submission to all the higher athma sattava in different realms of manifested and non manifested domain of omniscent Shiv-shiva can only slowly relinquish athma's ahum (brahman's ego) after submission of retrospective ego tattava to retrospctive demi God & Goddess. Once all the athman aham (self ego) is relinquished then is left a pure athman with out ahum. Then the moksha...mukte option is available, to the sadhal soul / Brahmana to amulgamate with omnipresent omniscent brahmana sattava for eternity.

My beloved yogi, this just a finite and deficient perception of mine, so pardon is seeked for less knowledged narration.
Comment by Dr SWAAMEE_APRTEMAANANDAA_JEE on June 30, 2010 at 1:27pm
Dear Chandan Jee,
1. Your views are Quite interesting!
2. True "then is left a pure athman with out ahum"..in the stage of the Swayambrhma, the AATMA is definitely without any AHMA [HUMAN UNREASONABLE EGO that is SEEN IN THIS WORLD].
3. As regards the LORD Shiva being the ONLY TRUE BRHMAN, well OUR EXPERIENCES TELL US A DIFFERENT STORY...I remember having once initiated a well-educated well-cultured bhadralok-kind professioal Bengali middle-aged couple in Pune a few years back into the SATYAA PARAMAA TATVA JYOTEE BHAKTE YOGA....they were seated with me and the process followed [details cannot be divulged here because FAKE SAINTS/fake YOGEEs around may misuse the information to fool the gullible innocent public]..Like you dear Chandan Jee, the couple was fully sure of Lord Shiva being the only TRUE BRAHMAN..During the process, they had the True glimpses of LORD SHIVA and did not wish to go beyond him...But, when they went beyond LORD SHIVA, THEY FOUND THERE WAS NO LORD SHIVA...IT WAS ONLY THE SWAYAMABRAHMA STAGE...THERE WERE NO TWO..THERE WAS NO DUALITY OF 'THE PERCEIVER' AND 'THE PERCEIVED'...IT WAS JUST THE ABSOLUTE PARAMAA TATVA IN ITS MANIFESTATIONLESS FORM FULL OF LIGHT....! After that novel TRUE SPIRITUAL EXPERIENCE, the Bengali couple changed their view about the LORD SHIVA...AND REALIZED IT IS JUST THE PARAMAA TATVA ONLY THAT IS THE REAL/FINAL ABSOLUTE TRUTH....CALL IT BY WHATEVER NAME YOU MAY LIKE TO CALL IT.....I CARRIED OUT A SUFFICIENT NUMBER OF THIS SPIRITUAL EXPERIMENT ON NUMEROUS PURIFIED SPIRITUAL-SEEKERS TO SATISFY MY OWNSELF, SINCE I BELIEVED THAT MY OWN SINGLE EXPERIENCE COULD NOT HAVE VALIDATED THE TRUTH OF THIS PHENOMENON....
4. As I have often said, there can be no real substitute to your own individual experience. You have to experience it yourself first....
5. When one says that there is no need to worship GODS/GODDESSES after the SELF-REALIZATION then it means that one can directly contemplate on the ABSOLUTE MANIFESTATIONLESS PARAMA/PARAMAA TATVA..it does not mean that you give up respect for GODS/GODDESSES if you love respecting them...It's just like that on matriculating, you join a degree college for a higher degree..so, naturally you'll have to pay attention to your present college lecturers/professors rather than to your past school teachers...
6. So, with all humility and full respect for your strongly personally-held belief, I wish to conclude by saying that the TRUE BRHMA is FORMLESS/MANIFESTATIONLESS..AS regards carrying on discussions, one can go on debating for aeons IF ONE HAS ONESELF NOT HAD TRUE SPIRITUAL EXPERIENCES, with neither party acceding to the correct perception...So, I would like to round off this discussion by saying that go by your own experience..Don't believe in me, scriptures or anyone else if your own spiritual experience does not tally with our experiences........!

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