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LET US NOT BE SELECTIVE IN OUR SPIRITUAL ANALYSIS - PART 2

In my last article, I gave two examples of the selective spiritual analysis indulged in by Rampal of Satlok Ashram, Karontha, Haryana, India. In this article, you will find a few more such examples as given below.

[1] Rampal quotes in one of his books, the discussion supposedly held many centuries back between a NATH-PANTHI YOGI and KABIR in which Kabir is shown as defeating the NATH-PANTHI YOGI in the discussion. Kabir is shown to be helping the defeated NATH-PANTHI YOGI get spiritual liberation by initiating him as his disciple...! This account is given by Rampal to show NATH-PANTHI YOGIs in poor light and as inferior to KABIR.

BUT, RAMPAL HIDES THE DISCUSSION BETWEEN NATH-PANTHI YOGI AND KABIR THAT IS GIVEN IN THE NATH-PANTH LITERATURE IN WHICH KABIR IS SHOWN AS THE ONE DEFEATED IN THE DISCUSSION BY THE NATH-PANTHI YOGI....!

NOW JUST THINK: THERE ARE TWO VERSIONS OF THE DISCUSSION THAT EXIST. NATH-PANTH VERSION SHOWS KABIR AS THE DEFEATED ONE. KABIR-PANTH VERSION SAYS KABIR WON THE DISCUSSION. WHICH VERSION TO BELIEVE IN...?

THE TRUTH IS: IN OLDEN DAYS, COMPETING SPIRITUAL SECTS/PATHS TRIED TO SHOW THE RIVALS AS INFERIOR BY WRITING OUT IMAGINARY, FALSE STORIES/DEBATES HIGHLIGHTING/GLORIFYING THEIR OWN SECT/PATH AND DECLARING THE RIVAL/COMPETING/OTHER SECT/PATH AS USELESS AND INFERIOR....!

[2] Rampal quotes following statement highlighted in yellow colour {Plate number 1}, made by Devi , in ShrimadDevibhagwata, “…Us Paramaatmaa ko hi jaanae, dusri sab baaton ko chhod dae.” [Meaning: “Be aware of only that ALMIGHTY alone, leave all other things/matters.”] Here, the Almighty referred to is the Devi herself as we shall see later in this article. But, Rampal has twisted this statement and given a wrong meaning somewhat like this in Hindi ( which I myself have heard him say on TV channels) as follows, “Devi kah rahi hai ki devi ko chhod do, aur akmaatr us parmaatamaa Kabir ko hi bhajo…” [Meaning given by Rampal: Devi says that don’t worship Devi, instead worship the Almighty who happens to be Kabir.]

{Plate number 1}

In addition to giving the wrong meaning of Devi’s statement, Rampal also hides the following page {Plate number 2}, in ShrimadDevibhagwata, in which Devi says, “ Parvatraaj! Is prkaar yogayukta hokar mujh brhmaswaroopa devi kaa dhyaan kare.” [Meaning in English: “Parvatraaj! Visualize me (the BRHMA/ALMIGHTY/THAT who is me the DEVI ) by being established in the Yoga like this.”]

{Plate number 2}

Now, let us see as to who this BRHMA/ALMIGHTY that Devi/Goddess is talking about is. Read the words highlighted in yellow on the following page, “Jis Brhma maein…..ot-prot hai, us akmaatra parmaatmaa ko hi jaane, dusri sab baton ko chho de.” [Meaning in English: “The BRHMA/ALMIGHTY in which……exist, Be aware of only that ALMIGHTY/PARMAATMAA alone, leave all other things/matters.”] You can see clearly that BRHMA/ALMIGHTY is spoken of as the PARMAATMAA here in plate number 3.

{Plate number 3}

{Plate number 4}

In plate number 4, Devi says, “Jab tak ant:puujaa kaa adhikaaar na mile tab tak to baahaya puujaa karnee chaaheyae. Adhikari hote hi baahayapuujaa chhodkar ant:puujaa main lag jaaya; kyonki meri jo abhyantar puuja hai, waha thodae samaya baad gyaan main leen ho jaatee hai – UPAADHESHUUNYA GYAAN HE MERAA PARAMA RUUPA HAI…..ISILIYE JANMA AUR MRUTYU KI KREYA KO SHAANT KARNE KE UDESHAYA SE AEKNISHTHA HOKAR MERA CHENTAN KARANA CHAAHIYE.”

[Meaning in English: “Till the time you are not eligible for inner worship, till that you should do outer (Idol) worship. On becoming eligible for inner/divine-light worship, you should give up/leave idol worship and do inner idol-less worship; because my worship which is outer/idolatory, that outer/idolatory worship converts into gyaaan(divine light) worship……THE DIVINE ETERNAL LIGHT WITHOUT ANY FORM IS MY ABSOLUTE/ETERNAL/FINAL FORM/STRUCTURE….HENCE, TO SILENT/STOP THE ACT OF CYCLE OF BIRTH AND DEATH, BECOMING FULLY FOCUSED THE DEVOTEE MUST CONTEMPLATE ON/ABOUT ME…”]

Thus, it is clear that Devi says that Devi’s devotee evolves spiritually gradually, moving from idol worship to worshipping the Divine light which is ETERNAL/ALMIGHTY/ABSOLUTE….!

Rampal claims that the Almighty isn’t the DIVINE LIGHT. But, Rampal hides following saying by Mahhalaksmi {plate number 5} in ShrimadDevibhagwata, “ Kyaa tum NIRGUNNAA AADHYAASHAKTE KO NAHI JAANATAE? UNHI MAIN UNKAA SAGUNNAA RUUPA BHEE CHEPAA RAHATA HAI.” [Meaning in English: “…Don’t you know the Nirgunaa/MANIFESTATIONLESS/DIVINE-LIGHT original power? Her manifesting form is contained in her manifestationless/divine light form.”]. This statement makes it fully clear that whatever we see as the world around us is actually placed within/inside the Divine Eternal light. The Divine Light only is manifesting as the stars, the Sun, the Moon, etc….!

{Plate number 5}

{Plate number 6}

{Plate number 7}

{Plate number 8}

{Plate number 9}

Statements highlighted in yellow colour in plate numbers 6, 7, 8 and 9 make it clear that Devi is

BRAHMA/ABSOLUTE/ALMIGHTY. In other words, the THAT/ABSOLUTE/ALMIGHTY/SUPREME CONSCIOUSNESS itself only is manifesting variously as DEVI, etc.

THUS, it is clear that Rampal has tried his level best to fool his own self, to fool his own followers and to fool other genuine spiritual-seekers by quoting selectively from spiritual texts. No genuine and true spiritual guide would indulge in selective quotations and selective interpretations.
~ J G M J V S A J

.......to be continued

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Comment by ASHRAM on December 22, 2012 at 8:16pm

Thanks for your kind notice about Jagatguru Rampal Ji Maharaj & observations.
My Dear friend....pl spare some time with open mind to dive deep to understand the intent/objective/vision/mission with which Jagatguru Rampal Ji Maharaj has blessed the Humanity with the Nectar of TRUTH by slaying ALL bandana’s (bondages-KAAM, KRODTH, LOBH, MOH, AHENKAR, ERSHYA, DWESH) in one shot with master key penetrating all the classes of masses (literate & illiterate both). I have gone through most of your blogs, it demonstrates the sincerity you have for the real food of soul. Please listen one end to end sat sang in continuation not in bits & pieces otherwise again you will be going to miss a lot remaining with bubbles in your mind. A SATGURU is the one who is able to put you in a state where there is no Question remaining to be answered. You will find all business houses on globe who preaches SHUNYA main raho......do Mediation....Kriya Yog.....REIKI......Tantra...... & be blissful during the course of process only..... but Jagatguru Rampal ji's shishya's are always in the state of SAHEJ SAMADHI while delivering all the responsibilities in the normal day to day life. Please sail through few & see how the disciples are able to demonstrate the quality of spiritual discipline without inducing the state but with SEHAJTA. Probably all of us want applied & demonstrated capability only lean words does not stay long.
I am not here to criticize your thoughts because I am not the authorized to do it, but would say that only your openness will give you opportunity to understand SAT—there is a saying “HATH KANGAN KO AARSI”.
Pl. let me know if you wish to plan a systematic learning further.

Pl. have fregnance from few words & Apna Kalyan Karao.

Manav Jeevan Durlabh Hai Mile Na Barambar
Tarvar Se Patta Tut Gaya Bahur Na Lagta Dar.

With Best Regards

SATSAHIB

Akshya Dass

Comment by Dr SWAAMEE_APRTEMAANANDAA_JEE on December 22, 2012 at 9:27pm

Dear Ahshay, I have read your comments sincerely.....I HAVE STUDIED RAMPAL THOROUGHLY WITH AN OPEN MIND ONLY....HENCE, I HAVE GIVEN MY TRUE COMMENTS.....AS REGARDS YOU, YOU SEEM TO HAVE BEEN MESMERIZED BY RAMPAL AND HIS FALSE PHILOSOPHY....YOU ARE MOST WELCOME TO FOLLOW THE WRONG SPIRITUAL PATH BEING SHOWN TO YOU BY RAMPAL....YES, I DO ADMIRE HIS SOCIAL WORK LIKE GETTING MANY PEOPLE FREED FROM ALCOHOL, ETCETRA, BUT PLEASE DON'T EXPECT ME TO FOLLOW RAMPAL WHEN I HAVE CLEARLY SEEN THROUGH HIS WRONG SPIRITUAL PATH.....ANYWAY, I RESPECT RAMPAL, YOU AND HIS FOLLOWERS AS FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS BECAUSE AS DEVI SAYS, "ALL ARE MY FORMS ONLY...!"

Comment by Dr SWAAMEE_APRTEMAANANDAA_JEE on December 26, 2012 at 12:53pm

THE MAIN PROBLEM WITH THE FOLLOWERS OF RAMPAL [KABIRA-PANTHA] SEEMS TO BE THAT THEY HAVE TAKEN ONE SPIRITUAL POSITION [i.e, KABIRA BEING THE ALMIGHTY] FROM WHICH NOW EITHER THEY FIND IT DIFFICULT TO BACKTRACK OR ARE UNWILLING TO BACKTRACK DESPITE THEIR OWN SELVES HAVING REALIZED THEIR OWN SPIRITUAL FOLLY....HENCE, THEY ARE TRYING TO FOOL OTHERS AND THEIR OWN SELVES BY MISINTERPRETING AND TWISTING WRONGLY THE MEANINGS OF THE WORDS FROM SPIRITUAL TEXTS TO FIT INTO THEIR OWN WRONG ARGUMENTS.....I HAVE ALREADY SHOWN CLEARLY IN MY THIS ARTICLE HOW RAMPAL HAS TWISTED DEVI'S STATEMENTS WRONGLY.....EVEN NOW IF RAMPAL AND HIS FOLLOWERS AREN'T READY TO UNDERSTAND/INTERPRET THE SPIRITUAL SCRIPTURES RATIONALLY, LOGICALLY, PROPERLY AND IMPARTIALLY, WELL, IT'S THEIR DESTINY.....!

Comment by Dr SWAAMEE_APRTEMAANANDAA_JEE on December 26, 2012 at 1:27pm

NO ONE DENIES THE FACT OF BRHMA, VISHNU AND MAHESHA/SHANKARA HAVING BEEN BORN BY THE DIVINE MOTHER......KABIRA-PANTHIS ARE COMMITTING BLUNDER HERE BY TAKING THE LITERAL MEANING WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING THE SPIRITUAL MEANING AND BY FALSELY CLAIMING THAT AN IMAGINARY ENTITY LIKE KAAL HAD SEX WITH DURGA TO PRODUCE THESE 3 GODS.....THE SPIRITUAL MEANING IS: "THE DIVINE MOTHER REPRESENTS THE CREATIVE FORCE IN THE SPACE/UNIVERSE AND EACH THING IS CREATED BY HER OWN POWERS....IN THIS SENSE, SHE CAN BE SAID TO BE THE CREATOR OR THE MOTHER OF ALL ENTITIES BE IT BRAHMA, VISHNU OR MAHESHA...!"

Comment by Dr SWAAMEE_APRTEMAANANDAA_JEE on December 26, 2012 at 1:32pm

RAMPAL CLAIMS THAT HIS BOOK 'PRABHU KEE PREBHAASHAA' IS THE 5TH VEDA OR THE SWASHAMA/SOOKSHMA VEDA. AS A PROOF, HE SAYS THAT PROPHET MOHAMMAD HAD RECEIVED THE 5TH KALAMA OR THE 5TH VEDA WHICH HE DID NOT PASS ON TO HIS FOLLOWERS.....THIS CLAIM OF HIS OWN BOOK BEING THE 5TH VEDA IS SHEER NONSENSE TO SAY THE LEAST.....! IT IS JUST LIKE IF I SAY AND CLAIM WRONGLY THAT MY BOOKS 'APRTEMAANANDA UPANISHADA PART-I AND PART -II' ARE THE 5TH VEDA/KALAMA.....!

Comment by Dr SWAAMEE_APRTEMAANANDAA_JEE on December 26, 2012 at 1:37pm

SWASHAMA OR THE 5TH VEDA, IN MY HUMBLE VIEW, REFERS TO THE SCIENCE OF KUNDALENE/KUNDALINI POWER...! 'SWA' MEANS 'OWN SELF, JEEVA OR INDIVIDUAL CONSCIOUSNESS' AND 'SWASHAMA' MEANS THE SCIENCE OF AWAKENING THE KUNDALENE POWER WITH THE HELP OF 'SWASHA' OR 'SWAASHA' [BREATHING]....!

Comment by Dr SWAAMEE_APRTEMAANANDAA_JEE on December 27, 2012 at 3:14pm

"RAMPAL CLAIMS THAT HIS BOOK 'PRABHU KEE PREBHAASHAA' IS THE 5TH VEDA OR THE SWASHAMA/SOOKSHMA VEDA." MAY KINDLY BE READ CORRECTLY AS "RAMPAL CLAIMS THAT HIS BOOK 'PREBHAASHAA PRABHU KEE ' IS THE 5TH VEDA OR THE SWASHAMA/SOOKSHMA VEDA."
THE UNINTENTIONAL TYPING ERROR IS DEEPLY REGRETTTED - J G M J V S A J

Comment by Dr SWAAMEE_APRTEMAANANDAA_JEE on December 28, 2012 at 3:37pm

I have written this article and commented here under divine inspiration from the Divine Mother...!

Comment by Dr SWAAMEE_APRTEMAANANDAA_JEE on May 1, 2013 at 9:06am

"AND SO, FINALLY THE FOOLISH RAMPAL SEEMS TO HAVE SEMI-CORRECTED HIMSELF AS DEMONSTRATED FROM THE FACT THAT NOW RAMPAL IS SHOWING THE PLATE NUMBER 2 ALSO TO THE VIEWERS ON A PARTICULAR CHANNEL....! AT THE TIME OF WRITING THIS ARTICLE, RAMPAL WAS NOT DOING SO...YES, IN HIS CHARACTERISTIC STYLE OF CONFUSING OTHERS, HE IS STILL MISINTERPRETING/MISREPRESENTING THE PLATE NUMBER 2.......! I HAVE STRONG REASONS TO BELIEVE THAT RAMPAL HAS HIMSELF READ THIS 3 ARTICLE-SERIES OR IS FULLY AWARE OF IT...!"

~ J G M J V S A J

Comment by Dr SWAAMEE_APRTEMAANANDAA_JEE on May 1, 2013 at 9:20am

I have used the adjective 'FOOLISH' for RAMPAL, since RAMPAL HIMSELF HAS USED THE ADJECTIVE 'FOOLISH' for Indian saints in his own Ashram's book 'GYAN GANGA', NO, RAMPAL HAS NOT REALISED THAT RAMPAL HIMSELF IS THE BIGGEST SPIRITUAL FOOL OF ALL...:-)

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